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Been meaning to answer this one for a while but I guess recent events have made this relevant again.
a few things:
>Anti-European sentiment is like much more likely to evaporate post-Trump especially since the Rubio-types are the likely successor faction as opposed to Vance's whiny isolationism.
idk if rubio is really the designated successor, JD Vance is clearly favored by the tech elites, and last time there was a media blitz to try to paint him as the reasonable guy in the room vis à vis the iran war, possibly framing him as the guy that stayed cautious in regards to the administration's excesses. Of course he has the charisma of a used condom, but so does Jordan Bardella so we'll see how that goes.
>Most of the "anti-european sentiment" is Yanks being irritated at perceptions of Europe not pulling its weight in the alliance while still snobbily looking down at Americans as backwards colonials who'll never be good enough for Paris, Berlin, and London.
Not really when it comes to the US right. The US right has been resentful of Europe for decades over their perception that we're more progressive than them. They literally hate us for our freedom. This was an obsession of the neocons as well. For example, William G. Boykin, undersecretary of defense for intelligence during the bush era said: “The continent of Europe is dark, it is hopelessly lost and it’s going to get worse. Every expert will tell you that by the middle of this century the continent of Europe will be an Islamic continent, and they can’t reverse it, they can’t stop it. It is because they took Jesus out of their societies and it’s been replaced by darkness.”. So this sentiment is not new at all, it only got more intense over time.
And it's not just the right, I was quite frankly radicalized by how cavalier a lot of american liberals and leftists were about Trump's aggressive maneuvers against Greenland and Canada.
There's quite a few supposedly rational and reasonable americans who half-jokingly played defense for Trump's attempted violations of european and canadian sovereignty, talking about how they're not "real countries" or whatever. (and they're doing it again right now!) When Trump did some corruption at fifa against belgium, a lot of americans failed to understand why people from other countries thought it was distasteful. Even people who you'd expect to be more understanding just went "well, we're america, we get to just do this, it's even uncouth of you to be mad at it. rules don't apply to us.". Even though they might not admit it, the american exceptionalist belief that rules don't apply to them is too deeply ingrained in the american psyche.
I can understand american frustration at some of the perceived smugness from europeans who perceive themselves as more civilized than the US, I personally think it's bullshit because every negative trend from US politics ends up being exported to us ten years later anyways. European political discourse is rapidly americanizing with culture war moral panics being exported by far-right billionaires like Bolloré in France with his Cnews network. Hell, the british voted for Brexit a year before trump got elected, and the italians repeatedly voted for Silvio "Bunga Bunga" Berlusconi decades before trump was a thing.
However the fact remains that in EU-US relations there is a certain pattern where the US makes horrendous decisions on foreign policy against the wishes of europeans, but suffers little to no consequences while europe has to pick up the pieces. Even in spite of this, the european political establishment has remained committed to atlanticism beyond what is reasonable. European leaders have constantly compromised and bended over for the US' interests while receiving only scorn in return. Denmark was one of the most pro-US countries in europe, and look where that got them. It's a bit hypocritical to condemn europeans for not being enthusiastic enough when people like Mark Rutte (who is actually not a human, but just a doormat that happens to be connected to organs and a nervous system, not unlike a jellyfish) and Friedrich Merz (ditto) keep acting like towel boys for the US. This just proves that no matter how spineless and concilitary EU leadership acts, it will never be good enough for america.
Now you can say that this is all republican's fault and that the next democrat president will fix it. I don't buy it. We already had that "America is back" bullshit under Biden and it failed tremendously. He failed to give ukraine the help it needed, empowered Netanyahu, failed to crack down on MAGA after Jan 6, etc. It's not 2020 anymore and this fantasy isn't convincing anyone. No geopolitical actor can reasonably be expected to hinge their entire foreign policy on the possibility that a few thousand (with all due respect) white trash fucktards will make the responsible, educated choice in an election. I'm not an expert but I don't think the american electorate is gonna get any smarter in the coming years. I don't see why the US gets to spit in our faces, grab our land, infringe on our sovereignty, wage economic and political hybrid warfare on us, while we're expected to uphold the transatlantic relationship in spite of that. I don't see why the responsibility isn't on the US to stop elected retarded presidents.
